Do we know if there will be any new units?

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Eagle Eye242, Aug 15, 2015.

  1. Burak Damgacı

    Burak Damgacı Well-Known Member

    I hope so. According to me: They have to show some Lithuanian units in the Poland army. But They don't. Historically, You're right. Sweden needs new units for 18th century. I agree with you. Of course, Need more states in this game. Maybe Lithuania, Crimean Khanate etc. The game needs sharpshooters, sappers,miners,marines etc new units. But we can't see all of them and also need new buildings heavy stable, military academy,palace. Like Cossacks 2 Napoleonic Wars. Venetian army needs more type of soldiers. Morlach and other irregular troops and Special German or Swiss mercenary army, new grenadiers, marine soldiers, more cavalry units etc. Yes they need to re-skin.
     
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  2. Aistis1990

    Aistis1990 Active Member

    And musketeers lol sweden haha. Well I understand. The very idea is that their uniform , tricorns and colors were very distinctive. When I play for sweden even with blue color and I make Musketeers and Grenadiers , Dragoons. They dont look anything like sweden. They look more like Russian or Austrian units. Whatever mercenaries from some Poland.

    Ive got a feeling that devs wanted to create cossacks 1 game just based on few countries. Russia , Poland , Ukraine and Turks. They made models for Russian units and since game idea changed about Europe they have cloned them for whole Europe. Now it is redone again :) . Because if you check in c1 textures. You will see that cuirasiers , dragoons , musketeers looks very russian like :)
     
  3. Aistis1990

    Aistis1990 Active Member

    And if its commonwealth so why not shared buildings? But all buildings just Polish ones? :)
     
  4. Kamilow

    Kamilow Well-Known Member

    More of 18 c. units should be re-skined. For example :

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    Venetian 18c. Muskeeters



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    Austrian Cuirassier


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    Russian Officer , 18 c. Muskeeter , Grenadier.
     
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  5. Zakxaev68

    Zakxaev68 Active Member

    Interesting suggestions here, I should say. Atm to me it seems units require even more fine tuning because things some times feel too repetitive. New ones, as well different ranged armies are no-brainer. Plus unique units? ...whoever writes the announcements also should go for another word, whatever, almost all look equal. More diversity mixed in attack tactics can fix that.

    First and foremost, wrap work on games offerings; still major problems, still market stone exploiting bores the hell out of me, who would enjoy prolonged games with even current market rates?
     
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  6. Vidas

    Vidas Member

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  7. Kamilow

    Kamilow Well-Known Member

    Rank of the factions which need a new units :

    1. Venice
    2. England
    3. Algieria
    4. Russia (18. Centaury)
    5. Austria (18 Centaury)
    6. Netherlands
    7. Spain (18 Centaury)
    8. Ukraine
    9. Prussia (18 Centaury)
    10.Poland (18 Centaury)
    11. Sweden
    12. France
     
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  8. Burak Damgacı

    Burak Damgacı Well-Known Member

    Kamilow should add this . Turkey needs a balloon and 18th century equivalent musketeer and dragoon or fast cavalry units. You can look at my suggestion.
     

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  9. Daddio

    Daddio Moderator Staff Member

    Nice, it is sorely needed!
     
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  10. Vidas

    Vidas Member

  11. Vidas

    Vidas Member

    In 2015 Unikron and cossacks 3 administrator condor_fly revelated wonderful photo about multibarreled cannon. These multibarreled cannons in cossacks 3 and also in cossacks 1 games are used by almost all countries (exception Turkey, Algeria, Ukraine and Scotland).
    http://www.cossacks3.com/forum/index.php?threads/multibar-cannon.490/

    In 2015 Unikron revelated pfoto written, that this cannon "Hell organ" was created by russian engineer Andrey Konstantinovich Nartov in 1741:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrey_Nartov

    http://jeka-jj.livejournal.com/1102651.html

    Multibarreled cannons were various in the world, and in 2017 spring developers released Scotland with his own multibarreled cannon (frame gun):

    https://store.warlordgames.com/coll...1618-1648/products/scots-covenanter-frame-gun

    http://www.cossacks3.com/forum/inde...s-3-guardians-of-the-highlands-release.29535/

    I think that developers can add other multibarreled cannons for other countries, these cannons could make game more interesting:

    Ottoman Empire volley gun with 8 barrels, early 16th century for Turkey:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple-barrel_firearm



    Ribauldequin for England can replace standart russian multibarreled cannon:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribauldequin

    http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-vi...r-view-of-the-open-countryside-132790120.html



    Polish 9-barrel or 6-barrel cannons can replace standart russian multibarreled cannon:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-barreled_cannon

    Also interesting idea about Polish 20-barrel artillery piece and Nock gun:

    http://www.theinfolist.com/php/SummaryGet.php?FindGo=Volley gun

    Wikipedia write, that multi-barreled cannons have also been built in India, and an example with 6 barrels, similar to the ribauldequins of the middle ages, has been preserved in the Nehru Scientific Center. If developers would add India in future, I think this ideas interesting:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-barreled_cannon

    French triplebarreled cannon for France:

    http://agema.darkbb.com/t483-french-triple-barrel-artillery

    triplebarreled cannon for Venice:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...e-gun-cannon-discovered-by-archeologists.html

    Choson Korean multi-barreled cannon for Korea:

    http://wabcorner.blogspot.lt/2014/03/choson-korean-multi-barrelled-cannon.html

    Sturmkolben multibarreled gun and Landsknecht Mace/Gun Combo Weapon for Prussia or Bavaria:

    http://gungeekfrag.tumblr.com/post/151860424273/qsy-complains-a-lot-sturmkolben-multi-barreled

    http://peashooter85.tumblr.com/post/50134312591/landsknecht-macegun-combo-weapon-during-the


     
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  12. Burak Damgacı

    Burak Damgacı Well-Known Member

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    Vidas Member

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  15. Italian Janissary

    Italian Janissary New Member

    It would be a good idea in my opinion even if they gave a new skin to 18c pikeman, musketeer and grenadier ofthe countries that have the regular ones just to match the historical colours they had (red for British, green and red for Russians, blue and yellow for Swedes etc...) not necessarily changing the stats, even if it would be cool to have slight differences.

    As for 18c Turkey I think the Ottomans should still be without it to reflect the decline of their empire at that time and the Janissaries were still part of their armies untill the 1820s, so they should be kept as their main ranged unit. maybe give the Janissary an increased range in order to make it more appealing for late game and could also be a good idea to give them a bit more hp, they are a bit too squishy right now. In that way they could be closer to 18c musketeers.
    Turkey definitely needs a fast cavalry unit and the balloons though.
     
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  16. Loner

    Loner Active Member

    Check out the 'State v Country' Mod on Steam, just an example of what can be achieved. Have a mess about with the stats in 'data\scripts\lib\unit.script' using Notepad ++, make sure you only alter a copy, don't change the original files.:)
     
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  17. Italian Janissary

    Italian Janissary New Member

    Thanks for the suggestion! I’ll check the mod out :)
     
  18. Vidas

    Vidas Member

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  19. Vidas

    Vidas Member

    7 barrel cannon for Hungary:

     
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