Missing Units

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Kamilow, Apr 22, 2017.

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What formations do you miss most in the game?

Poll closed Jul 11, 2017.
  1. Prussian Jägers , Frei-korps ( Prussia)

    2 vote(s)
    6.5%
  2. Ironsides , Royal Horse Guards ( England)

    4 vote(s)
    12.9%
  3. Polish Armored Companion (Pancerni)

    4 vote(s)
    12.9%
  4. Ukrainian Melee Unit

    5 vote(s)
    16.1%
  5. Stradioti , Morlachs (Venice)

    6 vote(s)
    19.4%
  6. Siemenovski Foot Guards , Lifeguard Cossacks (Russia)

    2 vote(s)
    6.5%
  7. Cazadores , Walloon Guards (Spain)

    1 vote(s)
    3.2%
  8. Swedish Imperial Grenadiers ( formed by King Charles XII)

    2 vote(s)
    6.5%
  9. Emperor's Cuirassiers , Hungarian Hussars , Hungarian Grenadiers (Austria)

    3 vote(s)
    9.7%
  10. Chasseurs à Cheval , Mounted Grenadiers ( France)

    2 vote(s)
    6.5%
  1. Kamilow

    Kamilow Well-Known Member

    Yes , they are exist as irregular troops in Cossacks 3 period. Also in the first Cossacks they appeared in Mod1. http://cossacks.heavengames.com/mod/
     
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  2. 5||901234||123457||

    5||901234||123457|| New Member

    No, they appeared during French campaign in Egypt and became famous during Crimean War. (Encyclopædia Britannica)
    Source or it didn't happen.
     
  3. Kamilow

    Kamilow Well-Known Member

  4. [PR]Ernest

    [PR]Ernest Moderator Staff Member

    I would like to see Nizam-i-cedid, Deli, Ironsides, Pancerni and Stratioti
     
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  5. Kamilow

    Kamilow Well-Known Member

    My final list.

    Top 35 missing units at this moment in my opinion :

    1. Bedouins Algieria , Turkey
    2. Nizam-I Cedid (infantry and cavalry units) Turkey
    3. Berber Muskeeter - Algieria
    4. Deli Horsmen Turkey
    5. Stradioti Venice
    6. Morlachs Venice
    7. Ironsides England
    8. Chasseurs à Cheval France
    9. Cossack Pikemans Ukraine
    10. Lifeguard Cossacks ( Lancers) Russia
    11. Prussian Jägers Prussia
    12. Cazadores Spain http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Cazadores_(ETW_unit)
    13. Emperor's Cuirassiers Austria
    14. Cossack Infantry Russia
    15. Polish Armored Companion ( Pancerni) Poland
    16. Horse Grenadier Guards England https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_Grenadier_Guards
    17. Swedish Imperial Grenadiers ( formed by King Charles XII) Sweden
    18. Cossaks with Sabres Ukraine
    19. Kalmuks Russia
    20.Sekban Muskeeters Turkey
    21. Ottoman heavy infantryman Turkey
    22 Balkan light rider Turkey
    23. National Cavalry Poland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Cavalry
    24. Frei-korps Prussia http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Frei-korps_(ETW_unit)
    25. Venetian Nobles infantry Venice (old type of heavy infantry)
    26. Balkan Merceneries (Croatian light cavalry in Venetian Service).
    27. Schiavoni- 18c. Venetian infantry.
    28. Polish Reiter Poland
    29. Muscovite Reiter Russia
    30 Lanceros Spain
    31. Mounted Arquebusier (Armored missile cavalry)
    32. Marine Infantry Venice
    33. Schiavoni Venice
    34. Herreruelo Spain
    35. Lusitanian Dragoons Spain



    Also in ,, Path to Grandeur" Hungary also should have Mounted Pandurs unit ( like in the first Cossacks ) + 4 other units which we will get soon ( Hajduk , Grenzer , Hussar , Grenadier).


    2. Top 20 Units who needs re-skin

    1. Russian Muskeeter 18c.
    2. Russian Grenadier
    3. Austrian Muskeeter 18c.
    4. Austrian Grenadier
    5. Spanish Grenadier
    6. French Grenadier 18c.
    7. French Muskeeter 18c.
    8. Russian Cuirassier
    9. French Cuirassier
    10. Sweden Muskeeter 18c.
    11. English Muskeeter 18c.
    12. English Cuirassier
    13. English Grenadier
    14. Austrian Hussar
    15. Spanish Dragon 18c.
    16 Spanish Muskeeter 18c.
    17 Russian Hussar

    18. Venetian Muskeeter 18c.
    19. Polish Muskeeter 18c.
    20. Polish Grenadier
     
    Last edited: May 28, 2017
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  6. Aistis1990

    Aistis1990 Active Member

    Polish Grenadiers and zmusketeers need reskin as well lol. They had broad trim line dark blue colour where buttons comes for a jacket. And their colors were. Red/white/blue. . Don't forget that grenadiers in end of 17c start 18c had most of them trim hats similar like bishop with copper plate in front. Some used cloth , some used bearskin. I think cossacks 3 game should mirror War of Spanish Successor epoch for 18c. It would be more original. But since developers made campaigns and stuff regarding 7 years war Id say we should stick with that. No units of Napoleonic era lol. But military reforms in last quarter of 18 century I think are legit. So... it should also cover Polish Military reform , and many units should be reskinned to mirror more 7 years war timeline than just start of 18c. Since we have with Prussia Friederich the Great's army it would look stupid countries fighting. Some with units from 1701 year other with units from 1720 , other from 1760 and other vs units of 1790 lol... so imagine warfare... countries with uniforms of 50 years old difference...
     
  7. Foeurdr

    Foeurdr Moderator Staff Member

    That's the eternal problem of a game when it has sure a large period of time, you have to make choice in with equipment to choose to represent a maximum the period.
     
  8. Daddio

    Daddio Moderator Staff Member

    This is true, but one of the things that was disappointing in C3, was the lack of new units. They recreated all the generic units from the old game. Instead of making them nation specific.

    Since they were recreating them all from scratch I was hoping that they would add some new ones to make the game fresher visually.

    I love this thread, and hope that someone will take it on and do some re-skinning of the units.
     
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  9. Ftoomsh

    Ftoomsh Well-Known Member

    I want to see Bedouin and Berber Musketeers for Algeria and maybe a mounted shooter of some kind for Turkey.

    And yes, many more unique units as Daddio says. The Baddog units from C1 BTW Mod1 would be a great start. Then add the Davout new units from OCMOD1. Did the devs copy Dav's Scotland or what? ;)
     
  10. 5||901234||123457||

    5||901234||123457|| New Member

    New unique artillery for Sweden - Leather cannon:

    72100-Swedish-Leather-Guns-TYW-extra-big-4491-088.jpg
    72100-Swedish-Leather-Guns-TYW-extra-big-4491-0882.jpg
     
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  11. Wololo

    Wololo Member

    In AoE3 units just change their appearance with every upgrade (age) and such solution allows to represent larger period of time.

    For example Janissaries:
    2.jpg
     
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  12. Burak Damgacı

    Burak Damgacı Well-Known Member

    I have some information about Venice. I am interested in a world history and I've found many of web sites. For example:

    http://nelsonlambert.blogspot.com.tr/2012/09/the-last-100-years-of-venetian-army.html
    http://marengo1800.blogspot.com.tr/2015_06_01_archive.html
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?140987-Faction-Republic-of-Venice
    http://pampalaia.blogspot.com.tr/2011_03_01_archive.html
    http://velopeia.blogspot.com.tr/2014_07_01_archive.html
    https://byzantineoplomachia.wordpre...-of-fifteenth-and-sixteenth-century-in-italy/
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?671758-Italian-States-ARCHIVED
    http://miniaturesterrainpage.blogspot.com.tr/2013/12/wip-venetian-allies-jung-ottingen.html
    http://picssr.com/photos/28981624@N02/interesting/page2?nsid=28981624@N02

    Some of them have good information about Venice and other nations' units which I want to see this game in the future. Maybe Cretan archer for Venice or units of new trade and espionage republic of Ragusan. I think it would be wonderful for the game. I support all of your efforts to implement new units for this game. Cossacks Back To War and other Cossacks games are too old. You still use similar graphics. I think you should change and improve graphics of the game. Maybe you can add new unit skins, nations, etc or adjust the existing ones.What do you think about Albanian sharpshooters or Balkan mercenary cavalry for Turkey? Bosnian etc.Turkey needs very fast cavalry for raids. But when I played Turkey. I've dealt with very slow Tatars and Spakhs. Two of them are useless for raiding,repulsing enemy attacks etc. Because of their movement speeds. Maybe game developers should add new fast Turkish cavalry units.
     
    Last edited: May 6, 2017
  13. Kamilow

    Kamilow Well-Known Member

    Balkan Rider , Deli Horseman , Nizam-I-Cedid Cavalry as new speed cavalry. There is many options for developers , also Bedouins as dragoon type unit.
     
  14. Burak Damgacı

    Burak Damgacı Well-Known Member

    Yes,you're right. I've also missed bedouin units for Algeria.If they can add cavalry commander and banner, all cavalry formations will be in order.
     
    Last edited: May 6, 2017
  15. Foeurdr

    Foeurdr Moderator Staff Member

    It's a good site but it mostly focused on XIXth century and early XXth century.

    You should use the edit button when adding something soon after. ;)
     
  16. Burak Damgacı

    Burak Damgacı Well-Known Member

    For Venice
    Oltramarina Schiavoni or
    1 Reggimento Veneto Real, 1797
    http://marengo1800.blogspot.com.tr/search/label/Venetian
    Good choice for Cossacks 3. This website you can find more Venetian units and their beautiful uniforms.Uskok units for Venice or Austria. If developers add this unit. It will be great.
     
    Last edited: May 6, 2017
  17. Kamilow

    Kamilow Well-Known Member

    I think that Uskoks are very good to expand Venetian roster. I added them to my unit list.

    New units for Venice from my list :

    Venice Nobles - ( Oldy type of heavy infantry)
    Stradioti - cavalry. Similiar to Turkish Spakhs.
    Uskoks- Croats - Venetian mercanieres , light cavalry.
    Morlachs - Venetian infantry from Balkans.
    Schiavoni- 18c. Venetian infantry.
     
    Last edited: May 6, 2017
  18. 5||901234||123457||

    5||901234||123457|| New Member

    The same Uskoks which fought with Venetians and attacked theirs merchantmans..?
     
    Last edited: May 6, 2017
  19. 5||901234||123457||

    5||901234||123457|| New Member

    No, they fought against both - Ottomans and Venice and their piracy was cause of conflicts between Ottomans and Austria as well as Venice and Austria. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uskok_War

    Did you read something about what you propose? This topic is not a radio request show.
     
    Last edited: May 6, 2017
  20. Burak Damgacı

    Burak Damgacı Well-Known Member

    Okay man don't be so agressive. It's the first time to write in this forum and I forgot about the rules and I have no special purpose and I can't see wikipedia because of my country has banned this website. If you add extra information about Uskok. I can accept my fault and learn something new. I've just wanted to share my knowledge about Uskoks.
     
    Last edited: May 6, 2017
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