Patch Notes 16.01.18 (2.0.2.87.5828)

Discussion in 'Announcements' started by Bodun, Jan 16, 2018.

  1. Burak Damgacı

    Burak Damgacı Well-Known Member

    Yes, this is a lot. I hope they didn't do it:)) I didn't believe what I see but two games had 11 players FFA:)) I think the game will crash when the 11 players reach 5000 populations:))
     
  2. Falc09

    Falc09 Active Member

    what else has been changed? Balance?
     
  3. Burak Damgacı

    Burak Damgacı Well-Known Member

    I saw only 11 player games Falc09. Maybe they can announce what feature added or changed:)) Now one player can create 11 player multiplayer game with last patch. Chaotic battles wait us:))
    No one will survive I think:))
     
    Last edited: May 17, 2018
  4. From diff (I have C3 under Git repo) the changes are about:
    -gc_MaxPlayerCount value has changed from 9 to 12 (I guess eventually it's -1)
    -some network error handling
    -new medal for best players
    -new shortcuts ('NUM9', 'Mul', 'Shift+Alt+I')
    -some things about replay (I don't understand it)
     
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  5. Daddio

    Daddio Moderator Staff Member

    Alexander delayed C2 by at least 8 months? maybe a year?

    I hope I am wrong, but I do not think they have the staffing to do 2 major games at the same time. And the C2 engine is still flawed after a year of being out.

    Even though I would be the first person in line for a AC remake, no an AC update!
     
  6. Francesco_Cavalli

    Francesco_Cavalli Active Member

    I hope more changes become apparent - hardly the new features promised
     
  7. Foeurdr

    Foeurdr Moderator Staff Member

    I think those are the first changes before the tournament and a bigger patch will come after, the number of place for player may have been increased to allow more observator in the room.
     
  8. Original-Cossacks-Player

    Original-Cossacks-Player Active Member

    It's a shame really, it was like we were getting a series of revivals of the old school RTS games in fantastic 3D and amazing graphics.

    We all want the game to be made because we are huge fans, but even from a business perspective (which is the only reason GSC makes games obviously to make money) making American Conquest 2 was the next logical step, the hype of Cossacks 3 is still around, you already have the base game engine which already zooms in and out (one less thing to code for), the colour palette is easily changed within game without further coding (Cossacks & American Conquest use different colour palettes for brighter more realistic graphics in American Conquest), all that's left to code for is morale and the ability of military units to be recruited from peasants and garrisoning of units in buildings. The graphics market place is so large now you can just outsource all of the units/buildings graphics to China or India, all you'd need to do is provide the images of what the unit should look like and they can make the unit so cheap. So all you'd need to do is keep the programming in-house, everything else outsourced.

    On this forum and on the Steam forums there are so many threads and posts about when will there be American Conquest 2, so we know there is a market for this game.

    And on top of all that in recent years China has had a massive surge of interest in American culture, art and history, this didn't exist when the original American Conquest came out, you have a huge market in China for this game, they still play American Conquest regularly there are a couple sites dedicated to this.

    Anyway that's all I'm going to say on the matter, if it happens it happens, but now would have been the ideal time to have American Conquest 2.
     
  9. Vidas

    Vidas Member

    I want American Conquest 2, but i think they already maked announce. Stalker 2 announce maked 3 years until release. So unfortunately they will not create American Conquest 2 or Cossacks 3 DLC.
    After 2021 I suppose they will create various Stalker 2 DLC or completely new games. Stalker 2 killed Cossacks 3 and American Conquest 2

    Need more good RTS games like Cossacks 3, Age of Empires 2 HD or Empire Earth 2
     
  10. Fulcrum

    Fulcrum Active Member

    I don`t get it. The team behind C3 proved totally incapable and you want them to make you another pile of bugs you buy? What will happen when it turns like this one or even worse as engine on AC was more sophisticated and they disappear like on here? Their main programming guy who could make the stuff work was long gone, some remnants of GSC came back and produced what we have today - a manifestation of incapable software engineering with really bad marketing. I`ll never buy anything from them again, or from any company that has hired some of the GSC team.
     
  11. Original-Cossacks-Player

    Original-Cossacks-Player Active Member

    We will wait and see what the next patch update brings, hopefully it will fix a lot of the problems we have been facing with Cossacks 3, especially the multiplayer games. If the patch update fixes a lot of problems with Cossacks 3 then the same fixes would be present in American Conquest 2 (if it was ever developed) as it would use the same engine. Not sure what GSC have been doing for the last year and a bit since Cossacks 3 was released, maybe they were working on American Conquest 2?
     
  12. Vidas

    Vidas Member

    Maybe American Conquest 2 is in development:

    "Евгений Григорович участвует в разработке S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2, если судить по его странице на Linkedin. Отметим также и то, что «GSC Game World», вероятно, параллельно разрабатывает еще один пока неанонсированный проект."

    http://ap-pro.ru/blog/evgenij_grigorovich_v_komande_s_t_a_l_k_e_r_2/2018-05-18-2679

    Also:

    Сегодня состоялся очередной подкаст "Как Делают Игры", в котором Сергей Галенкин ответил на несколько вопросов касательно S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2. Некоторые факты из его ответов:

    - Движок официально ещё не подтвержден.
    - Игра находится на ранней стадии разработки (дизайн-документы).
    - Команда разработчиков имеет опыт разработки шутеров. Некоторые люди работали над оригинальным сталкером.
    - Казаки делали другие подрядчики.

    Last sentence important "Cossacks made other developers" (other than Stalker 2)

    http://ap-pro.ru/blog/podkast_kak_delajut_igry_fragment_o_s_t_a_l_k_e_r_2/2018-05-29-2687

     
  13. Original-Cossacks-Player

    Original-Cossacks-Player Active Member

    Vidas thanks for the info, can you please translate this to English? I get where you are coming from, you are saying there could be a chance of American Conquest 2 being developed in between Stalker 2 because the Stalker 2 developers are not the Cossacks 3 developers? So hopefully GSC are wise and put a small team developing American Conquest 2 while the other bigger team develops Stalker 2.
     
  14. Vidas

    Vidas Member

    "Евгений Григорович участвует в разработке S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2, если судить по его странице на Linkedin. Отметим также и то, что «GSC Game World», вероятно, параллельно разрабатывает еще один пока неанонсированный проект."

    Evgeniy Grigorovich participate in Stalker 2 development, if believe in his internet page Linkenid. Check attention, that GSC Game World probably develop also one unannounced project.


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    About different developer teams told Sergey Galyonkin:

    https://galyonkin.com/

    https://kanobu.ru/news/sergej-galen...nostyami-anonsa-irazrabotki-stalker-2-404896/

    "По словам Галенкина, «Казаков 3» разрабатывала студия Unicorn Games, которая позже выпустила игру под брендом GSC Game World. В свою очередь Stalker 2 разрабатывает опытная команда, которая до этого делала другие шутеры, а некоторые ее члены работали и над оригинальной игрой."


    Galyonkin said, that Cossacks 3 developed Unicorn Games studio, later released game under GSC Game World brand. Stalker 2 develop expierenced team, whitch developed other FPS games, some team members worked on original Stalker game.


    I remember from transtription of the second stream with Evgeniy Grigorovich:

    24. Do you plan to develop American Conquest 2?
    AC was a good game, and i would like to create sequel. However, we`re focused on Cossacks 3 right now and i can`t make any promises.

    http://www.cossacks3.com/forum/inde...n-of-the-second-stream-with-developers.29577/


    So probably Unannounced Title is American Conquest 2 and will be released rather than 2021.
     
  15. Foeurdr

    Foeurdr Moderator Staff Member

    That's some interesting news, thanks a lot @Vidas.
     
  16. Original-Cossacks-Player

    Original-Cossacks-Player Active Member

    Well when Cossacks 3 was first released GSC where releasing patch updates regularly, then they released a couple of DLC's and worked on the Linux version, then they wen't really quiet, only 2 things could have happened, either they let some of the developers go because they had no projects, or they had to be working on something in that period, which was well over a year, GSC could not find time for anything, no patch updates, no mac version, no balances, no new units or nations, so they were working on something (it wasn't Stalker because a year in they would have something to show for it), so maybe American Conquest 2 has been in development and set for a November 2018 release? Only time will tell.
     
  17. Original-Cossacks-Player

    Original-Cossacks-Player Active Member

    And my previous point about the official mod tools not being released for Cossacks 3 has me suspicious they are waiting until American Conquest 2 is released.
     
  18. Original-Cossacks-Player

    Original-Cossacks-Player Active Member

    Or the unannounced title was just Stalker 2 and he hasn't removed or edited that part :p:D
     
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