Venice Campaign - Idea

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Kamilow, Feb 22, 2017.

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Do you want to see Venetian Campaign and new units for this faction?

Poll closed Nov 8, 2017.
  1. Yes

    18 vote(s)
    81.8%
  2. No

    3 vote(s)
    13.6%
  3. I don't know

    1 vote(s)
    4.5%
  1. Kamilow

    Kamilow Well-Known Member

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  2. Aistis1990

    Aistis1990 Active Member

    I think there would be AWESOME DLC if they solely make topic for Italy and Mediterranean region.
    For example : Make Campaign for Venice and Ottoman Empire. Add new units to Venice , Turkey , Algeria.
    Add 2 nations : Piedmont and Kingdom of Naples.
    Include Desert Map with flora.

    This game theme for 17 century might improve overall game.
    Little fixes : Add Turkey/Algeria Baloon - Expensive.
    Make price cap for 17c barracks European : 400k Wood , 400k stone , 1,2kk Gold.
    Turkey , Algeria Elite units able to compete with power nations in 18c.
    Add 18c units for Piedmont (2) , Venice (2) .

    I'm not thinking that it might happen in short time , but in Long Run... What I really miss : Ottoman Empires power role.
    In Cossacks 1 there were many campaigns where Turkey was main antagonist and you had to think strategies how to repel Hordes or turks. And now everything is very sleepy...
     
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  3. Ferox

    Ferox Administrator Staff Member

    That's a pretty interesting idea. I'll discuss it with the team.
     
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  4. Kamilow

    Kamilow Well-Known Member

    I have one idea for another interesting campaign but i will write about this in the future.
     
  5. Kamilow

    Kamilow Well-Known Member

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  6. Kamilow

    Kamilow Well-Known Member

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  7. Cherry Lady

    Cherry Lady Member

  8. Kamilow

    Kamilow Well-Known Member

    That's right, the siege of Candia is the second longest siege battle in history. My mistake.
     
  9. Kamilow

    Kamilow Well-Known Member

    Cossacks 3 needs its own identity, which is why this campaign is needed. Venice not have even one unique unit , developers must change it.




    New units:

    Venice:

    Palace Guards (heavy infantry they replace standard Pikemans)
    Morlachs (melee infantry)
    Venetian Nobles (old type of heavy infantry, they looking something like knights)
    Stradioti (Light Cavalry)
    Schiavoni (XVIIIc. Infantry)



    Turkey

    Bashibouzuk (melee infantry)
    Deli Horsmen (melee Cavalry)
    Bedouins (missile Cavalry)
    Walachian Boyars (melee Cavalry)
    Armored Warriors ( heavy infantry , armed with Yatagans and shields)

    After Military Reforms :

    Mounted Nizam-I Cedit (Light Cavalry)
    Nizam Infantry

    Algeria

    Bedouins (missile Cavalry)
    Azzars (infantry, shooters)
    Camel Nomads (Melee Cavalry)
    Desert Riders (Light Cavalry)
     
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2017
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  10. Aistis1990

    Aistis1990 Active Member

    Some historical illustrations :

    [​IMG]
    Fanti da Mar di Venezia
    le uniformi dei Bombardieri del 1733 Vi propongo oggi una ricostruzione, basandomi anche sui disegni del Favaloro, della uniforme dei Bombardieri che erano.

    [​IMG]

    Other Venetian units ;)

    About Nizam I infantry for Turks I don't know since historically they were presented in Late XVIII century. And Cossacks Era is 17-18 century. So I think latest could go like period after 7 years war. So I think we should dig some reliable info , pictures of accurate info what countries what units had.

    In cossacks game it could be : Pikes , Musketeers , Grenadiers , Skirmishers , Light cavalry , heavy cavalry , dragoons.
    And ofc if devs might dig up and create at least 2-3 units for Venice it would be a lot. What to speak about Turkey and Algeria lol ;) And adding like 5-6 units I think would be too much for a team to handle. Maybe some modders could help a bit ;)
     
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  11. Kamilow

    Kamilow Well-Known Member

    And XVIIIc. Lancers for some factions like France , Prussia or Poland.
     
  12. Cherry Lady

    Cherry Lady Member

    Kamilow, I'm looking at your posts and I see that all your propositions are just unthinking copies from other strategy games with all their mistakes and without any sources.

    If you want to propose something for devs you should to document this by something more than wikipedia and posts from the forums of the other strategy games.

    For example instead of this:
    Something like this:


    Morlachs

    Works of Domagoj Madunić from University of Dubrovnik:



    Now do the same for the rest of your suggestions :)
     
    Last edited: Jul 26, 2017
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  13. Kamilow

    Kamilow Well-Known Member

    Maybe i do this. But it seems to me that this suggestions to create this Campaign and add Morlachs or Stradioti to Venice roster are good but ofcourse developers must verify them at 100% about historical informations.

    Stradioti

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2017
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  14. Aistis1990

    Aistis1990 Active Member

    But this illustration gives Stratiots in 16 th century. I was looking for their uniforms for XVII century couldn't find any ;-/ .
    My friend if we wanna help devs : Cherry Lady is right. We must find illustrations with correct data. Someone could help a lot if for example visiting some museum and share illustrations for military books. There are lot of XIX century units , you could dig some for XVIII century. Especially there are tons of : Austrian , French , Spanish , Russian , Prussian , English troops and their regiments , uniforms. But if we're to dig up something for Venice , Turkey we must dig deeper and English language might not help that much ;)
     
  15. Kamilow

    Kamilow Well-Known Member

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  16. Kamilow

    Kamilow Well-Known Member

    Last edited: Feb 26, 2017
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  17. Aistis1990

    Aistis1990 Active Member

  18. Kamilow

    Kamilow Well-Known Member

  19. Aistis1990

    Aistis1990 Active Member

    Yeah Venice should be smt anti turk nation here :-D . Too bad atm it sucks and nobody wants to play with it :)
     
  20. Kamilow

    Kamilow Well-Known Member

    Shame that Venice does not have something unique. In real history they have couple of interesting units and they are fighting well with Ottoman Empire what deserves for Campaign. :(
     
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